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Permit holder got Red Light Ticket in CA:Need Urgent Help whatnow 03/16/06
    I'am in California.This has been the worst thing I met since I immigrated into U.S. a half year ago.

    I received a 21453 traffic ticket when I'm still holding the permit. I misunderstood that a left turn against a red light can be made from a two-way street to a one-way street.When the red light was on, I stopped my car before the marked white line. When I saw no car was on the cross one-way street, I made a safe and slow left turn. Soon a police car followed me and signaled me to stop. Then I received that ticket.

    This happened 2 days ago, and on the same day I went to the county court room shown on the ticket. The staff tell me it would take 2 weeks to process my case and I would have to wait. What a conincidence. Just before the case happened, I made a drive test appointment which is 3 days later. What result will come to me? As a new driver, what should I do in this situation, considering the case's effect on my driving record in DMV and the auto insurance. Should I take the drive test on schedul? or postpone it until it is processed by the court?

    Any oppinion or advice will be greatly appreciated.

      Clarification/Follow-up by whatnow on 03/16/06 8:10 pm:
      Thank you for your timely answer! It reminds me that the policeman on the spot told me I could still take your test.

      Does the violation on my record means some points? If so, how many points will it count? I have learned the following opinion from other website, but I am not so sure of it. It said no points will be counted on my record if I take the traffic school. Is this what 'taking advantage of it' mean?

      Thank you again.

      Clarification/Follow-up by whatnow on 03/16/06 8:30 pm:
      Will the punnishment or penalty to a permit holder or a license holder the same when they violate the traffic law?

      Clarification/Follow-up by Jim.McGinness on 03/16/06 9:11 pm:
      It has been a while since I lived in California, so I didn't want to make too definite a promise about traffic school. Usually, traffic school is offered to allow you avoid "points" -- but you have to actually go to the classes!

      There are a few places where you can make a left hand turn on a red light, but the circumstances are pretty rare: an intersection between one-way streets controlled by a light, or something like that, and no sign prohibiting turns on red. Be sure to ask about that one in traffic school and remember that it's only applicable in California and a few other states. The rule of thumb is that turns on red are never allowed if it means crossing across a lane of traffic.

      Clarification/Follow-up by whatnow on 03/17/06 2:02 am:
      I have learned a good lesson from it though the price is pretty high.

      I'm completely admit I have violated the law and won't use not knowing the law as an excuse.

      My finiancial condition is not so good and I'm a college student paying high tuition fee. If this case goes to my record and points are counted, I have to pay more auto insurance fee.(+20% or more for the following years? I have no idea how much will be added until now). What I hope is no point counted and no increased auto insurance fee after paying the bail or going to traffic school. What is the best statement when seeing a judge? I, a new guy in U.S., like your expert opinion.

      By the way, is that possible a judge allows somebody to take a training school instead of paying a fine.

      Clarification/Follow-up by whatnow on 03/17/06 2:02 am:
      I have learned a good lesson from it though the price is pretty high.

      I'm completely admit I have violated the law and won't use not knowing the law as an excuse.

      My finiancial condition is not so good and I'm a college student paying high tuition fee. If this case goes to my record and points are counted, I have to pay more auto insurance fee.(+20% or more for the following years? I have no idea how much will be added until now). What I hope is no point counted and no increased auto insurance fee after paying the bail or going to traffic school. What is the best statement when seeing a judge? I, a new guy in U.S., like your expert opinion.

      By the way, is that possible a judge allows somebody to take a training school instead of paying a fine.

      Clarification/Follow-up by Bishop_Chuck on 03/18/06 11:57 pm:
      It will add a couple of points, don't know exactly ( sorry I did not look it up)

      And yes the fine and/or points will be the same if you have a licence or permit.

      If you don't have any other tickets getting one will not really hurt you that bad but it is never a bad thing to take a class so the points don't count.

 
Summary of Answers Received Answered On Answered By Average Rating
1. Keep the appointment. When you make your court appearance, ...
03/16/06 Jim.McGinnessExcellent or Above Average Answer
2. i dont think you can make a left turn on a red light,you can...
03/16/06 ladybugcaNo rating received!
3. Hello, you made an illegal left hand turn. So you got a tick...
03/16/06 Bishop_ChuckExcellent or Above Average Answer
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